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ThoughtDaemon 7/21/2020 5:44 AM
and what genetics
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No idea tbh lol my host's wife ordered them from a friend
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ThoughtDaemon 7/21/2020 5:46 AM
have a nice trip
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Haha thanks gonna be a while. Tripped on LSD just Wednesday, not sure when we'll get these shrooms
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ThoughtDaemon 7/21/2020 5:48 AM
yeah best to wait 2 weeks
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Uh huh
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ThoughtDaemon 7/21/2020 5:54 AM
what you planning with this trip?
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Not really planning any trip quite yet, just really nice to stock up
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ThoughtDaemon 7/21/2020 6:24 AM
"life isnt a prison when you have the keys to escape"
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"Zen is a way of liberation, concerned not with discovering what is good or bad or advantageous, but what is." — Alan Watts
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anyone who read the kyballion here?
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@oomfie I have
2:44 PM
don't know why that came up while listening to my stuff, but that's a good one for Scarlet. 😆
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@Maharani . The first part of this Win Hof breathing is intentional hyperventilation, isn't it?
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Yeah pretty much
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You doing the guided session with Wim?
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Yes. 🙂
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Cool :) Let us know how it goes
4:23 PM
Nothing I ever talk about in this channel is truly meta :P And comments of "this discussion should be happening in a different channel" are more disruptive than using the wrong channel in the first place IMO
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I was trying to post somewhere I wouldn't bother a lot of people that are uninterested. lol
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Not like all the sigil users and servitormancers in this channel are currently going "oh no Wim Hof is boring and mundane"...
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Suspected so. 😛
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Oh my bad :D
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We should talk sigils.
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I was trying to post somewhere I wouldn't bother a lot of people that are uninterested. lol
Pretty much what I use this channel for, lol
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Unfastened Belts 7/25/2020 4:27 PM
Lula, don't hold your breath HAHAHAHAHA geddit?
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Ahahahahahah... 😭... 😂
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We're taking about sigils?
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Please?
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Unfastened Belts 7/25/2020 4:32 PM
No! No meta in this channel! Smh...
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Perfect timing if we do move on to sigils for her, I just finished the breathing exercise.
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And do you feel like you could take an ice bath ?
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Wish I had the chance to take ice baths 😢
4:39 PM
Been taking cold showers only for over 2 years now, except in California even the "cold" tap water is warm...
4:40 PM
For like 7 or 8 months, anyway
4:40 PM
The tap water does get proper cold in the winter at least
4:45 PM
Agreed
4:45 PM
Lukewarm showers are much more uncomfortable for me than proper cold showers haha
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Ice baths sounds more like some Vixie nonsense.
4:55 PM
Really, @Maharani ? That's interesting.
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Proper cold showers suck for the first 3 or 4 seconds, and then just feel amazing
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I take cold showers in all seasons besides winter lol
5:04 PM
in winter the cold water is more like being hit with ice and I'm not that intense
5:05 PM
Wim Hof's method have been good to me and yeah, definitely not meta, they've done quite a bit of research on the man, it's pretty impressive
5:05 PM
and lucky, very lucky how he's a twin
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Lucky he's a twin?
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To compare the differences haha
5:18 PM
in winter the cold water is more like being hit with ice and I'm not that intense
10-min breathing exercize and you will be that intense 👍
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Oh lol nvm
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Just read you've already done it
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Breloomancer 7/25/2020 5:20 PM
I like to take cold showers more in winter than in summer because due to the way that the ventilation of the house works, the bathroom is always really cold whenever the AC is on, and comfortably warm whenever the heat is on, so taking a cold shower in the summer and then stepping out into a cold bathroom means that there is no relief from the cold until I leave the bathroom
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Cold showers are AWESOME.
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In magic energy follows intention. Intention can be strengthened by using tools and ritual. One such tool is a sigil. You could build upon existing symbolism like Nordic ruins for your sigils. But I find that the strongest sigils are the ones you create yourself. They'll mean more to you that way and that's all that really matters. This means that all a sigil really is is a symbolic representation of your intention. You place it somewhere where you can see it and the visual reminder of the meaning helps keep the magic alive.
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Yeah, that's what I'm going to do!
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Deleted User 7/27/2020 9:36 PM
How weird would you guys say it is if I'm pretty suspect that time travel is a real thing
9:36 PM
Not like with any machines or even physically though
9:37 PM
But like, that time is not actually entirely linear and there's some undiscovered weirdness that allows bleed over of information between present and future
9:38 PM
As in, I think under the right conditions, people can know the future. Not predict, but know. They're connected to it, somehow
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Breloomancer 7/27/2020 9:49 PM
time travel forward is possible by moving very fast relative to the things around you, but time travel backwards would break causality, and if it was possible then we would probably already know about it
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well we're connected to the future in that the future becomes the present
10:20 PM
or, in an alternate viewpoint, the future only exists as a collection of ideas about what will happen- held in the minds of people existing in the present
10:20 PM
that's a very Zen outlook lmao
10:20 PM
Reality is the present imo
10:21 PM
The past and future both only exist as complex abstractions that exist within minds or as abstractions within complex systems
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10:22 PM
i.e., [some] trees lose their leaves before the winter as to preserve energy, because "in the future it will be not efficient"
10:22 PM
but primarily in minds
10:22 PM
@Deleted User and maybe @Maharani I'd love to hear your views on "both the past and the future only exist as abstractions within the present, which is the only real part"
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all time is happening at once, just like all thing on the X axis exist simultaneously. the passage of time is just an illusion because of causality. time simply appears to pass, because our means of thought works via causality, so we can only experience one instance of time at a time
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that sounds awfully deterministic
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it's just time viewed from an outside perspective. to us, looking at time is like a bunch of blind people trying to figure out what an elephant is
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heyo, I said that parable to someone just the other da
10:41 PM
or maybe that was Cassidy
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perhaps me seeing either you or Cassidy use that is what inspired me to invoke that rather than plato's cave
10:43 PM
because due to causality, there is always a reason for everything. there is no free will because everything is happening simultaneously
10:44 PM
like when you graph a math equation, it will always come out the same. the universe is just a hugely complex math equation
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I'd love to hear your views on "both the past and the future only exist as abstractions within the present, which is the only real part"
@JGC 100 % agreed
3:12 AM
because due to causality, there is always a reason for everything. there is no free will because everything is happening simultaneously
Now we're talking! :P
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Deleted User 7/28/2020 5:46 AM
Quantum physics says the past influences the future just as much as the future influences the past
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I'm reminded of the words of the 10th Doctor (paraphrased): "Time isn't really linear, it's made up of sort of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey, stuff"
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Then I picture mathematical chaos in that it kinda looks like a tangled up ball of like a million different strings
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and we're just on one point in one string
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there are certain points when one string splits in two or two strings merge
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some run parallel some perpendicular
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This is how I see time in relation to concepts of a multiverse
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However, quantum sciences aside, in my own occult practices, I note the distinction between mainstream ideas on the multiverse and my own observations
5:52 AM
People see parallel universes as synonymous with parallel timelines (edited)
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I don't see it this way. I view each universe as an infinite set of parallel timelines
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There are many universes, each with their own infinite possible timelines
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I always wonder what it's like in other universes
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Are the physics different?
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Or are there antiphysics?
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In antimatter universes, are there also physics?
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What would a sentient humanoid antimatter life form look like? how would it think? how would it feel?
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And do esoteric concepts like void energy equate to antimatter? or are they another thing entirely?
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Physics are that which govern what is. Can't have a spacetime location without physics, or vice versa
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Deleted User 7/28/2020 5:56 AM
Yes, I know.
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But physics states that there's an equal and opposite for everything
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So there must be antiphysics
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